UPDATE: Price increased to $20k. Seller believes this was a 4wheel steer jeep. Based my research, 50 GPW 4WS were produced, but were they produced as late as 1943?
(07/11/2017) Seller thinks those tires and rims are original …. this has a gas tank in the rear.
“So I picked up this 1943 Willis flat fender ford built and it just so happens to be model gpw-4ws and that meens a lot actuall makes it a 4 wheel steering jeep that is one of the 50 they made.the rear steering is unhooked but its all there and the numbers are right on so as you can imagine my numbers are going up a lot.the last one that sold was a couple years ago n was in a lot worse shape then mine n went for 46,000 that being said mine only has 95000 miles it still has the original tires n wheels it also has a brand new top and original cast iron 4cyl engine n here’s the deal this thing is old n needs to be cherished n I need a jeep that is trail ready so if I sold it I would be asking 20,000 so any tj or rubicon 4dr and some cash works or just cash me out n double your money in a month or two at auction.i just want something that’s dependable for me to take my kids out in will do. ”
https://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/cto/6197488817.html
Seller now thinks it’s 1 of 50 rear steering jeeps and is worth 20k with no title….
Regarding the $46k, I wonder if he is confusing the 4WS GP with the 4WS GPW. That would make a BIG difference.
If I were to claim the Jeep I was selling had some uber-rare option… I would at least have a picture of said option!!
i have the title
whats the difference between the 4ws gp and the gpw?
my vin plate says gpw-4ws im assuming that could mean either i have just the vin plate for one and it wasn’t on the jeep it was handed to me.or i actually have one i guess your probably not gonna know because I,m keeping it anyway so there is no need for anyone but me to know until i decide to sell but again probably will go out with a will stating it has to stay in my family until no son is born to carry the name.
Jerad,
That’s a good question. The GPs were the prototype jeeps made by Ford while the GPWs were the production jeeps produced by Ford during the war.
Here’s a photo of a Ford GP: http://www.ewillys.com/2017/05/17/1941-photo-of-ford-gp-leaping-over-a-bump-on-ebay/ the grille, the fenders, the body shape, and dash (among a number of other items) were all different. And this page shows an example of the way the Ford GP Four Wheel Steer was set up: http://www.42fordgpw.com/4-wheel-steer-jeep/
There were 4,458 Ford GPs made in 1941. There were 277,825 GPWs made between 1942-1945, so you can see why GPs would be worth so much.
More production numbers here: http://wwiijeepparts.com/Archives/JeepSerialNumber.html#WWIISerialNumbers
I have not personally documented a 4 Wheel Steer GPW, but the evidence suggests they were produced. Here’s a page showing one: https://books.google.com/books?id=JugbDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA10&lpg=PA10&dq=ford+gpw+four+wheel+steer&source=bl&ots=n65sn4vvLr&sig=qX2iQALPjOr6Gfzkxd7eLr3sfgA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwih-aG9lIfVAhUHKWMKHeKjAcMQ6AEIhwEwEw#v=onepage&q=ford%20gpw%20four%20wheel%20steer&f=false
Are their brackets on your jeep that led you to believe this was a 4 Wheel Steer?
Thanks,
– Dave
Jerad,
You answered my question before I finished my comment, so that answers my last question.
The VIN plate number should match the serial number on your jeep frame if they belong together. The plate itself is a very interesting piece of history.
– Dave