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He says the pto works fine, but is there one on that jeep? Looks like a stationary engine on baler. Wish I could see it a little better.
Dave,
At this point, I can’t be sure that the baler shown isn’t some kind of Willys Overland stock photo.
– Dave
I take my CJ3a w/Newgren lift and plow to a number of antique tractor shows each summer. I’ve collected a lot of stories about jeeps being used for hay baling. It was a favorite of custom balers because the could move so quickly between jobs. I’ve never talked to anyone who was using the PTO to power the baler. They always used balers with auxiliary engines.
There is a good reason for that. Without a “live” PTO or override clutch you would have a hard time slowing that jeep at the end of row. I have read stories online about jeeps plowing through fences as the brakes were no match for the flywheel on the baler.
I don’t see a PTO either and suspect Dave is correct.
Barru
Bama Barry here, I agree. The photo shows an early Farmall A, B, C powered baler. It powered everything alone. Around here they were used to power local sawmills too. Cool photo, but I don’t about that letter. Highly questionable. But stranger things have happened. This unit did the mowing and raking but you were limited to the hay being high and dry. Later farmers learned cutting green and drying produced more cuttings per year with smaller less expensive equipment.
Barry is correct, we had both kind of balers at different times and without the over ride clutch on the tractor for the pto it would be very hard to overcome the large flywheel on the baler and with a small light vehicle as a jeep you would have no control, so when using a jeep the baler would have to be powered with its own engine, my dad’s had an air cooled 4 cylinder Wisconsin engine.
Yes, I spent several summers as a kid loading bales on a wagon behind a baler similiar to the one in the picture. They were in fact powered by Wisconsin 4cyl. air-cooled engines…….that would not start when hot !!! We learned very quickly to let them idle, hopefully under a shade tree during a quick lunch.
And yes, on any tractor without live PTO or overrunning clutch……especially a large bush hog mower that we use with several antique tractors…..you can have a true “white knuckle” event at the end of each swath when you need to turn at the fence or ditch.
Love all the farming related posts with Willys equipment.
Allan
This is one of the most entertaining posts Ive read here in some time. Amazing the experience levels of some of the writers. I never thought about the ends of the rows because we always had a live PTO on our tractors. It would have been fun enough to sell tickets to watch that poor soul going down hill toward a fence with that flywheel spinning.
LOL Lew, one would believe it didn’t happened more than twice. After that I would imagine there was a tall fence ripping front bumper! And I believe that was about the time adult diapers were invented too! Pucker point -3! Honey I was going thru last nites laundry and I gotta ask, have you been sick to your stomach?
I know about the lack of over riding PTO on the out put shaft, I had an old Ford 8N
tractor if I remember right, no live power, I soon took care of that.
Years ago I knew some folks in CO who used old jeeps in their hay making business,
raking winrows for the balers and moving machines from one place to the next job.
I don’t recall them using the Jeeps to power the balers, only to raking the hay.