18 Comments on “NOS GPW Engine San Francisco, CA **SOLD**”

1. mike February 14, 2015 at 7:19 am

   Another amazing find; How many times over the years have we heard stories about WW2 Jeeps & parts stashed in some warehouse. This is the first time I have ever seen some concrete evidence that there may be truth to that rumor.
2. mike February 14, 2015 at 7:31 am

   Just as an after thought to my previous post, if in fact this is true, ONCE & FOR ALL, THE GREAT COSMOLINE DEBATE will be resolved. No longer will we have to doubt the effectiveness of Cosmoline. Finally, an answer to one of the mysteries of life.
3. deilers Post authorFebruary 14, 2015 at 10:08 am

   Mike,

   There are definitely NOS WWII parts for jeeps that still exist. I’ve even seen a few for GPA (Seeps)!

   – Dave
4. Brian February 14, 2015 at 1:51 pm

   Would love to have this but probably way outa my budget.
5. SE Pennsylvania Steve February 14, 2015 at 2:46 pm

   I’m certainly no expert but my gut feeling says this may not be what it seems. I would certainly look VERY carefully at this before purchasing it and try to research as possible to try to find out exactly how this was done. Think about it, since no one (that we know of) has seen a complete NOS GPW engine this would be an ideal thing to fake since there’s not another one to compare it to. It would be a challenge to put a fake together but a big payoff would certainly be a motivating factor.
   Personally, I think the wood and those tags look a little too good.
6. deilers Post authorFebruary 14, 2015 at 3:07 pm

   Good points Steve. There have been claims of other NOS motors for sale on occasion. It’s always buyer beware —

   Here’s one that’s supposed to be a NOS:
   http://dundee.craigslist.co.uk/ptd/4837875398.html

   Here’s one that came from that auction in 2013 that is supposed to be NOS:
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nplKgxU8o0

   This G503 thread has a good discussion about a ‘NOS’ motor. I’ve never messed with cosmoline covered parts, but apparently once it is removed the paint can look rough. http://g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=232192&sid=df4394a7d56d2b2eb0efb2f46ff94d94
7. Alaska Paul February 14, 2015 at 5:16 pm

   A customer made a video of E.A. Patson’s military surplus yard before they closed November 2013 which shows some of their stock. They had N.O.S. parts for military vehicles from WW2 to more modern times and for 41 years I bought most everything I needed for my M-38 from Elmer and Rod Patson. The video is titled Salvage Yard of Military Trucks or just search for E A Patson.
8. deilers Post authorFebruary 14, 2015 at 5:23 pm

   Or, just click here:
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WUvFwri44w 🙂
9. Alaska Paul February 14, 2015 at 5:48 pm

   Thanks Dave, I’m not a computer guy. This video doesn’t show all the new parts tucked away in various buildings, stored in vehicles and stacked under the long dock where Elmer pointed out the transmissions. What didn’t get sold or moved was cut up for scrap, I bought more parts than I could afford at the time and now I wish I would have purchased even more. Oh well.
10. Doug February 14, 2015 at 6:25 pm

    Here’s one that sold for an M38 a few years back:

    http://www.mclallens.com/L-head/L-head_new.html

    Don’t know what it sold for, but I imagine it along with this one command quite the premium.
11. Blaine February 14, 2015 at 8:10 pm

    Too much good “stuff”. Gone??? I saw one CJ.
12. Josh February 15, 2015 at 1:49 am

    This most certainly is an original NOS in the Crate factory fresh GPW replacement motor and is what it seems. This is the real deal and a pristine example.

    I’ve seen and studied a small handful of G503 crate motor in person and a few in photo. They are out there in very small numbers. The components and details of this engine are authentic and nearly impossible to replicate to this level. Everything from the general untouched appearance, alignment of components, crate, and block date/codes as well the fact it has blank serial number boss all point to it being 100% authentic.

    This is not a period rebuilt motor in a crate… they are also out there, almost as rare, and look very similar but are stamped with a serial number already.

    This is a display piece and what makes it unique is the fact it is untouched, uncleaned, and displayed in the crate. I’ve heard/seen evidence of a few crate motors going into restorations. In my opinion a real shame. Once it’s in a vehicle or refreshed liked the claimed “NOS” ones in Dave’s links above they are no longer NOS, unique, and nothing more than another very clean used engine in a jeep.
13. Doug February 15, 2015 at 9:43 am

    Unfortunately only a museum (or very well off individual) will buy this.

    I contacted the seller. He’s asking $20,000. No doubt maybe someone will buy it (even at that price), but wouldn’t it be nice if for once someone found one of these and put it into their own vehicle rather then cashing in. After all, even a serious preservationist at the end of the day is really enjoying a hobby like the rest of us (although at a much higher level of spending).
14. MB-GPW February 15, 2015 at 5:15 pm

    Hi,

    I’m the owner of the engine. I do appreciate the positive comments. The crated engine has been in a dry storage since late the 50’s. That’s why the crate, paper tags, and the nos engine assembly are in mint condition. The crate has been lifted off the skid only once for taking pictures. Here is some detailed info which explains why my engine is an original WWII crated Ford factory NOS GPW replacement engine assembly (part # FM GPW 6004).

    As per Ford factory tags the engine was treated for storage in the crate on July 3, 1945. The engine block is dated June 7th, 1945 (engine casting # F 7 5 44). The serial number oval pad is blank as it should be. NOS GPW replacement engines were stamped with serial number in a different location, on the engine block above the manifold mounting bolt. The serial # is 11681X and 2 stamps with Ordnance Wheel with Crossed Cannons bellow the serial #. Electrical accessories are correctly dated June 1945 (distributor is May 1945) as per date codes.

    Thanks for your interest,

    MB-GPW OIIIIO
15. MB-GPW March 10, 2015 at 6:04 am

    The NOS GPW engine is SOLD.

    MB-GPW OIIIIO
16. deilers Post authorMarch 10, 2015 at 9:43 am

    Congrats and thanks for the update!
17. Dave Porter December 1, 2019 at 11:17 am

    Hi, I’d like to add my comments even though this post is a few years old. I’m hoping the seller, MB-GPW, is still on this forum, or if not, someone can forward this message.
    I recently acquired a similar NOS GPW engine in its original crate. Mine is a little dirtier since a mouse apparently found it’s way into the crate through a crack in one of the boards, but the configuration is identical. My crated engine has serial number 11685X with a casting date of F2154 (June 21, 1945). The red tag attached to the engine says it was treated for storage on July 3 1945, the very same date as the engine sold by MB-GPW. After I display my engine at the next MVCC meet at Plymouth, California (April 14-19, 2020) I plan to sell it. Can you give me an idea of how much it’s worth?
18. David Eilers December 1, 2019 at 5:36 pm

    Hi Dave,

    I’ve not been in on any transactions of NOS GPW engines, so I’m not much help, but it sounds like there’s demand for these engines, so the value will likely come down to the person with the biggest checkbook. I would think that going to the MVCC will be a good place to gauge value.

    – Dave