Daily Archives: October 17, 2009

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My Build: Bending the Rollcage

• CATEGORIES: Biscuit, Idea Factory, Roll Cage This site contains affiliate links for which I may be compensated.

I spent much of the day doing the initial bending of my cage. I managed to complete the front loop and back loop. I was very pleased with the results and the bender. Thanks to Mitch for the front and back loop measurements. Those proved invaluable!

I will delay a discussion of my tube choice (size and type).  I spent A LOT of time researching various forums on the pros and cons of various sizes.  Then, there’s the whole DOM vs. HREW vs. CREW vs. Sched 40 vs. Chromoly … and more.  I’ve also been filing away various roll cage designs so that readers and builders can see all the different ideas.  In the end, my cage reflects the need to tie into my frame due to the fiberglass body, I also wanted it to look like my previous cage in my first jeep, and it includes a workaround for the mid loop attachment as I put the mid loop attachment closer to the seat then I wanted (oops). I also need to talk a little about the bender I built and the plans I used, but will save that for later too.

bender_first_bend

tube_cutterThe first thing I needed to do was calculate exactly how the bend of the tube changed the measurements and determine the inner and outer radius measurements so I could measure the loops correctly. I started by marking off a tube in 1 inch increments up to about 15″. Then I put the tube in the bender and bent the tube. I learned that my 2″ die created an outer radius of 7.5″ and the length of a 90 degree bend from start to finish was 10″.  You can see the inch markers and the tube cutter I was using in the pic to the right.

Another thing I learned was that I had to bend the tube about 3 degrees past the amount I wanted, as it would spring back 3 degrees when released from the bender (you can see it bent past 90 in the pic below).

Knowing that information, I measured and bent the front loop. The first two bends of 90 degrees went smoothly. Then, I cut down the bottom pieces so that, after I added the windshield contours, the front loop would measure 45″ from the loop to the floor boards. Next, I bent the loop with the windshield angle. My windshield sits at an angle of 15 degrees and the bend needed to start 20″ from the floor board. These also bent perfectly.

bender_back_loop_2ndbend

bender_front_loop

So far so good.

Next was the back loop. Based on Mitch’s measurements and the look I was after, I decided that 43″ from the loop to the back floor would be a perfect distance. I made the width the exact distance between the body sides, which is slightly narrow than a standard jeep due to the wider lip on the fiberglass body. Again, the 90 degree bends went perfectly. Then, I had to do 45 degree bends back towards the body. Unfortunately, after testing the loop on the jeep, 45 degrees wasn’t the angle I actually needed, so I had to bend both sides twice in order to increase the angles to the point where it would work correctly.

bender_midloop_beforebend

bender_back_loop_4thbend

Here’s a poor quality shot from my camera phone of both loops in their respective places.

bender_2loops

With the two toughest parts of the cage out of the way, the sun set and I moved inside. I also was getting a little tired, because when I attempted to bend the back supports, I managed to bend BOTH wrong — one was bent the wrong angle and one was bent in the wrong location. Fortunately, I can salvage the tube and use them in other places. At that point, I thought it best to head inside and cook dinner.

More pics tomorrow night.

 
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1947 CJ-2A Blue Hill, Ne $2000

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It might or might not start.  It’s got a PTO.

have a 1947 Willys CJ-2A Jeep for sale. The body is in good shape needs some work. The motor ran last time I tried starting it. I also have many extra parts for a willys jeep. Frames, springs, carberator, transmission, ect…. Will sell stuff seperatly if your interested. If you would like to see more pictures i can email them. Would be a great restoration project. I dont have the time or the money to fix it up so i just want to sell it to someone who does.”

http://grandisland.craigslist.org/cto/1425373009.html

1947_cj2a_bluehill

 
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1947 CJ-2A Fresno, CA **SOLD**

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UPDATE: **SOLD** Was $1500

This doesn’t have a motor.  It has a Muller Top.

antique yes custom yes running not yt but ready for a 350 chevy to drop in.”

1947_cj2a_dj3_fresno

 
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1948 CJ-2A McGees, NC $750

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No engine.  At best it is a parts jeep.

“Asking 750.00. Great project. I bought it to fix-up. Too many projects. My loss your gain. Call to see! No motor, clean title. ”

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/1425587438.html

1948_cj2a_mcgees

 
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1947 CJ-2A Iowa $1255

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This is a non runner.  The engine is stuck.

“Nice cj2a with 49000 miles on odometer, Body good, with normal rust underneath, Frame good. mechanically good engine stuck but rebuildable Rare full aluminum top in excellent condition! will need brake work. Ph Rich 712 657 2042 See Pics”

http://omaha.en.craigslist.org/cto/1425347900.html

1947_cj2a_iowa3

 
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1954 Wagon Odgen, Ut Make Offer

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1954_wagon_ogdenThis might make a good project.  The body sure looks good from the front.

“Classic restored, non running; no title can get 1; complete. just blows blew smoke; stored covered 4 8 years; Let me amke you a deal. 801 689 6547”

http://ogden.craigslist.org/cto/1426091358.html

 
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VW Jeep Kennewick, WA **SOLD**

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UPDATE: **SOLD** Was $1175.

No motor with this VW Jeep. I doubt this is a ’42, but rather probably several decades later.

“this 42 willys has vw runnig gear spun bearing in motor dont have motor. is fun to drive yes i have a title u just need to find a motor i just dont have time thanks open to trades or cash”

1942_veep_kennewick

 
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Retreaded Offroad Tires

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JP Magazine’s review of retreads: While we’d consider their looks pretty ugly on a newer Jeep, we think the tread design fits perfectly for a resto-mod wheeler. It’s sort of an old school knobby-meets-NDT look. In truth, we were surprised to find so much performance in such an affordable package. The best part about the tires is the price. If you tear one up, you just buy another and motor on.

NOTE: I suspect I will revisit and update this post as I learn more from both readers and the internet.

I’ve been meaning to get to a post about retreaded offroad tires for a while, but really wanted to do more research on it, such as obtaining actual prices, shipping estimates, etc.

But, then Jim emailed me excited that he found retreaded tires that could be delivered to his door step at a total cost less than $400.  He said I needed to share this with readers and he is right.

I told him I already knew about the tires and was aware of sources; however, that thing called ‘time’ kept getting in the way of me posting information about it.  Also, I was about ready to purchase some retreads about which I’d planned to share with readers as a part of the post, but then Mitch made me an offer on some tires that I simply HAD to explore, so a purchase of retreads got put aside.

But, Jim’s comment made me realize it would be better to talk about what I’ve learned so far and let readers add to the discussion rather than try to figure it all out myself.  So, here it goes …..

SUMMARY

First, let me say that I have never used retreads, so I have no personal experience with them.  My summary is based on research and some feedback from readers.

  • Retreaded tires are cheap, as low as $50 for an ‘offroad’ tire in some cases. Between expense and shipping, these can still be far less than new tires.
  • Because these are retreads, sizes and options are usually very limited.
  • A study by the Virginia Department of Transportation found that he failure rate of retreads was less than 1%.
  • A 2 1/2 year study by Virginia’s State Police found that many of the treads found on the roads were from new tires, not recapped, and that underinflation of tires appears to be the number 1 cause of tire failure.
  • ‘Keep your tires properly inflated’ was what I read over and over for both new and retreaded tires.
  • Retreads are also environmentally friendly. Tires are basically petro-chemical products. It takes approximately 22 gallons of oil to manufacture one new truck tire. Most of the oil is found in the casing, which is reused in the retreading process. As a result, it takes only approximately 7 gallons of oil to produce a retread. (note, these 22 & 7 stats appeared in a variety of places, but I cannot attest to their accuracy)
  • Retreads are not only cost effective, according to retread.org, but they are also dependable, reliable and safe. Retreads are used by truckers with scheduled delivery times, small package delivery companies with guaranteed delivery times, including the U.S. Postal Service, on commercial and military jets, by most school bus operators, taxis, and many other types of vehicles.
  • According to the Federal Safety Standards developed by the United States Department of Transportation, retreaded tires can be driven at the same speeds as new tires with no loss in safety or comfort. And with proper maintenance and care, they deliver about the same mileage as new tires.
  • Retreaders sell approximately 33 million retread or recapped tires annually.

OFFROAD RETREAD OPTIONS

Stone Tire (Here’s a link to a post about them)

Import Export Tire from La Trobe Pa (You can see the V-Grips on Gerald’s CJ-3B).

import_export_tires_retreads

Treadwright: https://www.treadwright.com/

treadwrite_retreads

Others:

SOS Tire in Martin’s Ferry, Oh, sells the V-Grip (possibly by another name).  I have no link for the website, but a reader named Travis has purchased the tires for two of his vehicles and says they have worked great.

Check retread.org for more possible locations

RETREAD TIRES

The Tire Retread and Information Buruea at retread.org is a non-profit, member supported,  industry association dedicated to the recycling of tires through tire retreading and tire repairing. Additionally, according to the website, this association is not engaged in legislative or technical matters, which I interpret to mean they are not a lobbying body, but purely an informational resource.

According to the website, retreaded tires can “be driven at the same speeds, including highway and Interstate speeds, as new tires, with no loss in safety or comfort. Virtually all of the world’s airlines use retreads. Retreaded tires are used on school buses, racing cars, taxis, trucks, and Federal and U.S. military vehicles. These users all know that retreaded tires can be depended upon for safe and dependable performance.”

EXPERIENCES

  • JP Magazine’s Review of the Tires
  • The City of Santa Monica (California) has been using retreaded tires for more than 20 years. According to the City, its entire fleet, consisting of 585 vehicles, uses retreaded tires.
  • The City of Davis (California) has purchased retreaded truck tires of 10R22.5 and larger since 1993. These tires are installed on the rear axle only, not the front axle. The city installs them on all city trucks including fire trucks. The city even attempted to utilize retreaded light truck tires for pickups and other small trucks, but had numerous failures due to retreading low quality tire casings. Therefore, the city no longer uses retreaded tires on light trucks.

LINKS